Some choice quotes from anarcho-capitalists

“There’s a good reason the poor are poor, they’re less intelligent than the wealthy.”

“As such, it follows that legitimacy is derived from the claim that the government can help the poor. The poor buy into this as a result of moral and intellectual weakness.”

“Nonetheless we do favour individuals with authority, in the form of a natural elite.”

“If the parents wish to use force, then so be it. The child consents by continuing to live off his parents.”

“Libertarianism doesn’t support equal negative rights, a child does not have the same rights as an adult.”

“This doesn’t imply equal negative rights for adults. Some adults, such as primitives, are not capable of rational argumentation and cannot be brought peacefully into the division of labour. Moreover, they have no conception of property rights nor any enforcable claim.”

“These people (tribal or less developed cultures) simply aren’t capable of rational argumentation, and therefore have no rights, whether this is biological or cultural makes no differences.”

“The fact is they often cannot be brought within the division of labour and without any concept of property rights it’s impossible that they own anything. Moreover they have no legitimate claim to any of this territory and as such it’s free to be homesteaded.”

“People incapable of moral choice must either abide by the decisions of those who are or they must be removed from free society.”

“Against people who have no law, the initiation of force is fully justified.”

“It was not wrong for the spanish to overthrow an empire that literally fed on its slaves in religious rituals and replace it with its much milder form of serfdom.”

“Childish rejection of a natural order and authority isn’t the opposite to subservience. It’s a bad trait that needs to be kept down until the youth have matured sufficiently.”

“A private ruler must respect property rights simply because his wealth depends on clearly defined laws explaining what is, and isn’t legitimate property and how people should act in regards to this.”

“Anarcho capitalism and anarchism are synonomous. Anything that can’t be subsumed under anarcho capitalism, is internally inconsistant, and needs to be thrown out.”

“So long as government commands a monopoly over all land, the closed border position is defensible.”

“It is only reasonable to expect the state to fulfill its duties as a land owner.”

“The only system that would have no borders would be a world government.”

“Seeing as towns would be owned by single entrepreneurs…”

“Why wouldn’t people sell their land to a single entrepreneur? The have no interest in owning land, only in being able to lease it from some owner.”

“There’s nothing new about left-libertarians. They are still the same anti-capitalist who hated big business when Lenin promised to keep control of the commanding heights of the economy.”

“Anybody can benefit from the state and anybody can become a part of it.”

“It’s necessary to remove bad elements from a movement. Which is exactly what the libertarian movement should be doing to non Austrians and the likes of Molyneux. Lenin was exactly right in this regard.”

“Opposition to the family and church sounds somewhat Marxist to me, any libertarian society will be founded upon those two institutions so in a sense yes, one does need to be a cultural conservative to be a libertarian.”

“The state by it’s very nature is egalitarian in the widest sense of the word.”

“The only unifying principle of a secular, multicultural society is the democratic state.”

“Feudalism is actually an entirely appropriate model for anarchist society, and my prediction is it’s coming whether the anarchists like it or not.”

“A system of feudal holdings all competing with each other for human and fiscal capital stacks up pretty good against a system whereby the parasitic majority lives off the productive minority.”

Thanks to Polycentric Order for assembling the collection. All the quotes were supposedly taken from the Mises.org forum.

46 thoughts on “Some choice quotes from anarcho-capitalists

  1. tism January 21, 2009 at 21:25

    There’s so many internal inconsistencies in the above quotes, I’m not even sure where the best place to begin is.

  2. Richard Williams January 21, 2009 at 22:20

    Oh my. And to think, I once considered myself one of them!

  3. Niccolo January 22, 2009 at 03:01

    Francois,

    These are great. Permission to use?

  4. Francois Tremblay January 22, 2009 at 03:02

    Is not mine to give since I got these from the blog I linked, and besides I don’t believe in intellectual property.

  5. Cork January 22, 2009 at 06:24

    “It was not wrong for the spanish to overthrow an empire that literally fed on its slaves in religious rituals and replace it with its much milder form of serfdom.”

    In all fairness, this quote is historically accurate (though it still doesn’t justify “serfdom” of any form).

    Some of these quotes I agree with, but yes, many of them are pretty far “out there.” So? Anyone can cherry pick quotes from a group, and bunch them together as if they represent “the whole.” For instance, one could easily find plenty of quotes from left-anarchists praising Chavez and Castro, and doing other ridiculous things.

  6. Anarcho-pragmatiste January 22, 2009 at 12:59

    “In all fairness, this quote is historically accurate (though it still doesn’t justify “serfdom” of any form).”

    I agree with Cork on this one.

  7. Anarcho-pragmatiste January 22, 2009 at 13:12

    But all the other quotes are not valid anarchists positions.

    “So? Anyone can cherry pick quotes from a group, and bunch them together as if they represent “the whole.””

    Sure, but these stupid rightist statist assertions undermine the credilibity of the anarcho-capitalist movement.

    “For instance, one could easily find plenty of quotes from left-anarchists praising Chavez and Castro, and doing other ridiculous things.”

    Absolutely! This is the same problem.

  8. Aaron January 22, 2009 at 14:59

    “It’s necessary to remove bad elements from a movement. Which is exactly what the libertarian movement should be doing to non Austrians and the likes of Molyneux. Lenin was exactly right in this regard.”

    This one’s odd because Molyneux calls himself an anarcho-capitalist. But if you know anything about his positions, he would be making fun of all these quotes as well.

    “All the quotes were taken from the Mises.org forum.”

    That however, does not surprise me. That place is rampant with self contradicting libertarians that heard the word “anarchy” and thought, “what a cool word!”

  9. Anarcho-pragmatiste January 22, 2009 at 15:05

    An insteresting site about religion:

    http://unreasonablefaith.com/

  10. Mike January 22, 2009 at 20:03

    I believe the word for these people is “vulgar libertarians”…

  11. Michael Wiebe January 23, 2009 at 13:10

    As funny as these are, what we need is rational arguments and debate, not quotation wars.

    This is the problem with the conspiracy/money and banking crowd – they don’t have any real arguments, just a bunch of (mostly fake) quotes.

  12. Anarcho-pragmatiste January 23, 2009 at 14:16

    Even worse than vulgar libertarianism.

  13. Mike January 23, 2009 at 18:09

    “Sure, but these stupid rightist statist assertions undermine the credilibity of the anarcho-capitalist movement.”

    huh. And here was me thinking that “anarcho”-capitalism had no credilibity to undermine in the first place….

  14. Andrew February 4, 2009 at 14:12

    “A system of feudal holdings all competing with each other for human and fiscal capital stacks up pretty good against a system whereby the parasitic majority lives off the productive minority.”

    In Bizarro world, A are greater than A.

  15. rom February 5, 2009 at 10:54

    Michael Wiebe
    “This is the problem with the conspiracy/money and banking crowd – they don’t have any real arguments”.

    Thats not true. This is a accusation made by the bankers and their paid lackys.

  16. Anonymous February 7, 2009 at 21:06

    “anarcho capitalist movement”

    BWAHAHAHAH OMFG OMFG HAHAHA *slaps knee* HAAAAA *cough* HAHAHAAAHAHA *wheeze* HAHA… HA… HAHAHAHAH!!!!!

    I would love to see an “anarcho” capitalist rally, a bunch of rich white teenagers and a few rich, white, bourgeois economists.

    I’ll check out more of your blog, Francois.

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  18. Sergio February 10, 2009 at 10:01

    Sorry. I ran a search for such phrases and they pull me back here has only source. Then I searched in similar phrases or thoughts in the-source-of-evil you mention (Anarcho-Capitalists pages) and do not find anything….

    MAYBE, just as Umberto Eco states: Mediocre Folks don’t Read (Newspapers-Books-ETC) searching for something to movilize their way of thinking, hearing variations of others, they turn *on* the same media TYPE (Newspaper/Political Show/News) that will tend to say exactly what he already thinks to make him feel more clever every day…. Addicts of this kind are dangerous….

    PLEASE..for good sake order… place a tag on each quote so sound readers can share… otherwise this is a fraud serving addicts only…

    Sorry the english ’tis not my maiden language.. thank you

  19. DennisV February 11, 2009 at 06:31

    What a pitiful pile of shit. What scares me most is if an greek “anarchist” block made of landlords, priests, plutocrats and other plain authoritarians is INDEED possible.

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  21. Andrew F February 10, 2010 at 15:14

    Francois

    I would greatly appreciate it if you threw the word ‘some’ before ‘anarcho-capitalists’.

    I see the problem with nearly all of these quotes, and the people I know, personally, who call themselves an-cap consistently criticize these so-called ‘an-cap’s.

    FYI even Molyneux criticizes the notions of child ownership and religious ownership.

    I am sad that semantics is preventing people from simply confronting other’s contradictions.

    adieu,
    ~Andrew

    PS why aren’t we facebook friends anymore?

    • Francois Tremblay February 10, 2010 at 17:41

      I don’t really know you, you’re not my friend. I don’t even remember who you are.

  22. Ricky April 17, 2010 at 20:16

    these were the worst you could find? really?
    they are all terrible ofcourse and i doubt many AC would agree with these.

    it’s cool that you learned to quote-mine but
    i cant help but wonder how this would compare to a hasty quotemine from the opposite side..

  23. Francois Tremblay April 18, 2010 at 03:06

    First of all, if you had read to the bottom, you’d have seen that I wasn’t the one who assembled these quotes. Secondly, if you want to put a list of quotes from libsocs, you’re welcome to do so and I will publish it here.

  24. petercowen April 19, 2010 at 05:27

    Every movement attracts wackos and fringe elements.

    In this list there are people justifying the state, hardly anarcho capitalist. I realise you didn’t write it but it is a bunch of crap.

    It would be like someone assembling a bunch of quotes from a communist website and attributing it to the libsoc movement (and there are some crazy fucking communists)

  25. Stevo Darkly June 10, 2010 at 03:11

    As an anarcho-capitalist myself, I must say I find the sentiments expressed in most of these quotes to be questionable at best, and in most cases appalling. All are debatable.

    They certainly do not represent my thinking, nor that of any anarcho-capitalist thinkers I have read. (Which is not to say that an-cap’ism is entirely free of a-holes, no ore than any other movement.) Many or most are in direct opposition to an-cap principles.

    I note that these quotes, otherwise unsourced and no longer traceable to their origins, are said to come from the Mises.org forum. As far as I know, anybody of any stripe — including conservatives, social democrats, statists, Marxists, fascists, no-nothings, racial supremacists, outright trolls, etc. — can post comments in most forums.

    If I post a pro-capitalist comment here in your left-anarchist blog, can someone quote me and call it an example of a “choice quote from a left-anarchist”?

    If anyone believes these quotes must actually represent the actual views of anarcho-capitalism or even individual anarcho-capitalists, I’m afraid somewhere along the way you have been misled by someone being less than honest.

  26. Francois Tremblay June 10, 2010 at 04:24

    What’s so anti-ancap about these quotes? I believed many of those things myself, and I know of at least some ancaps who believe any of them.

  27. Juan June 13, 2010 at 03:20

    Most of those quotes comes from one single catholic, racist nutcase who used to post in mises.org. You could also argue that a fair amount of mises.org nutcases say that kind of thing. But they are not libertarians. They are ‘anarcho-conservatives’, theocrats, bigots and the like.

  28. Brian August 3, 2010 at 15:28

    What the heck? That is not AC. There is a difference between A-caps and the radical right. These are quotes endorsing the radical right. I am horrified to think that many people have been misinformed by this. It’s the first to come up on google.

  29. Francois Tremblay August 3, 2010 at 15:46

    Brian: can you point out how these quotes are not natural consequences of an AC society, more specifically?

  30. From Mises Forum October 11, 2010 at 01:42

    These quotes aren’t from the forum. I’ve googled them. Also, they don’t sound like there from the forum.

    If your going to demean and belittle free market anarchists, at least be accurate. This is fucking pathetic.

  31. Francois Tremblay October 11, 2010 at 01:52

    The Mises forum is pathetic. No one knows about it except Misesians. It is an irrelevant pit for old right-wing fogies.

  32. It really is. October 11, 2010 at 04:17

    To make up quotes? No, that is truly pathetic. It’s a fallacy, and a sign of insecurity. Anarchists don’t have right or left wings. You either want to enslave your fellow man against his will or not. That’s all government is, a barrel of a gun or a threat of imprisonment. It’s that simple.

    You can’t condemn someone, when you make up their views.

  33. Francois Tremblay October 11, 2010 at 04:25

    “To make up quotes? No, that is truly pathetic.”

    The quotes are not from me. I posted the link I got them from. Maybe someone made them up: I don’t know the whole truth.

    “That’s all government is, a barrel of a gun or a threat of imprisonment. It’s that simple.”

    Too bad you propertarians don’t learn the lesson very well.

    “You can’t condemn someone, when you make up their views.”

    Are any of these views not held by Misesians?

  34. Curtis October 11, 2010 at 06:03

    As a daily reader of the mises blogs I can attest that the great majority of these quotes were not made by self-described AnCaps. Some were, though they don’t necessarily (and in many cases DEFINITELY) represent consensus views. I recognize many of those as coming from one poster, a self described neo-con with some supposed libertarian leanings. A frequent poster but generally considered a troll and laughably far off any views held by most AnCap’s Some I don’t recognize at all so who knows. And another large bunch of them are indeed by a self described AnCap (all of the ones in ref to children as basically being slaves of parents etc.) However, the guy is viewed as a wackjob by most of us and is certainly not representative. Many more are quotes from another poster who is a self described “a moralist, fascist.” This is a poster who respects Hitler et al. No AnCap by any stretch and, once again, considered a troll on the forums.

    Come on, man. I don’t agree with you guys either but we neither of us need to be stooping to this kind of level. And hey, we both hate the state!
    Lets poke fun at each other on each others ACTUAL commonly held beliefs. I’m sure you can still find plenty of stuff we ACTUALLY hold to be valid that you find ridiculous. As could I with you guys.

    Don’t make me start posting your troll’s quotes and saying “hey, look what these crazy anarchists believe!” haha. “They worship Pol Pot and think the only way to get rid of govt. is to institute an all powerful one world government and then exterminate 90% of the population!”
    “Apparently they think that will lead to freedom!” (for the lucky %10 they don’t choose to exterminate)
    Now I just pulled that out of my ass of course but I’m sure you all have your own trolls who post stupid shit and hold crazy views. See how doing that would be kind of messed up?
    Lets keep it a clean fight fellas :)

    Cheers!

  35. Francois Tremblay October 11, 2010 at 06:24

    I think the problem here is that you guys think I am seriously attacking Mises forum. I honestly could not care less about Mises forum. I don’t care what you believe, either. I just reposted this list from another blog so I could point and laugh at you guys.

    To me, your ideology is ridiculous, and I’ve made that point many times before. You can argue with me on those entries. But here, there’s nothing to argue about.

  36. Well No, we don't October 11, 2010 at 10:48

    I can’t represent everyone, but I am a so called anarcho-capitalist and disagree with all these quotes. It’s ridiculous.

    If you want to debate us, we’re over there and ready, but don’t beat around the bush with false information.

  37. Peter Cowen October 26, 2010 at 18:20

    Hey man, I am not from that website, I’ve never bothered posting there. I’m just a guy who read graveyard of the gods and found your blog and thought I might try to understand some of that libertarian socialism stuff because even though I’ve been an anarchist capitalist I respected and liked your writing enough that I thought its worth reading, even if it is an opposing viewpoint its something I don’t know much about.

    But the quotes? Well as has been said, its like attributing communism to libsoc, it doesn’t work.

    “So long as government commands a monopoly over all land, the closed border position is defensible.”

    That is an anarchist position? No, I think not. I suspect the mises possesses it’s fair share of statists and minarchists as well.

    I’ll keep reading the stuff you write yourself :)

  38. Francois Tremblay October 27, 2010 at 01:39

    Fair enough.

  39. Julia July 10, 2011 at 01:45

    Ha! These quotes are great! Kind of reminds me of this: http://i.imgur.com/VJwUI.jpg

  40. Menso July 10, 2011 at 05:39

    I’ve never heard an anarcho capitalist say anything like those things, but I think maybe the people you quote are not very smart. Come round to my blog for some intellectual argument. –>http://theruleoffreedom.wordpress.com/

  41. Justen Agorist Robertson July 10, 2011 at 14:43

    Lots of people say stupid things, regardless of what ideology they claim to adhere to. Evaluate the principles on their own and forget about the people and their ideologies. Are the principles consistent with themselves and with observed reality? If they are not, they are no good; if they are, they’re worth consideration. Certainly you have to establish a complete context, and even a person whose goals and principles are generally solid may make logical errors. Fallacious thought is rampant in every camp. At least all anarchists can agree on a foundational principle that it’s not acceptable to take what you want and force people to do what you want at gunpoint, even when they sometimes misapply that principle or fail to recognize it in action.

  42. ImpetuousStew9 October 26, 2012 at 06:39

    I don’t think most of these quotes are even true

    • Francois Tremblay October 26, 2012 at 13:53

      Well, no… none of this shit is even remotely true, in the sense that it’s completely disconnected from reality. So are capitalists.

  43. Keith Barger November 29, 2012 at 10:08

    I appreciate the work done here to show the AnCaps for the fascists that they truly are, but it would be more useful to know who said each of these quotes and where it was found. The only way to successfully destroy the AnCap corruption is to be thorough in our work of rooting them out.

    • Francois Tremblay November 29, 2012 at 14:18

      Fair enough… if I ever compile my own list (which I won’t, because I don’t go on such message boards), I will include sources.

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