With child you lose, childfree you lose.

12-year-old girl: I don’t want kids when I grow up.
Society: You’ll change your mind when you get older. You’re only 12. You’re too young to know what you want.

16-year-old girl: I’m pregnant.
Society: How could you be so stupid? Do you know anything about safe sex? You should be ashamed.

20-year-old woman: I’m a single mother with an infant son.
Society: You should’ve gone to college first. You need a stable career before you can support a child.

33-year-old woman: I’m married and my spouse and I both have stable careers. I have two young daughters now.
Society: You’re not staying home? Who’s going to take care of them? You’re just going to put them in day care while you work? That’s selfish of you. You can’t expect to raise decent kids with a full-time job.

45-year-old woman: I just had my first child.
Society: Why would you have a child when you’re that old? Do you realize the health risks of being pregnant at your age? When your kid is a teenager you’ll be a senior citizen. That’s inconsiderate of you.

60-year-old woman: I haven’t had any children.
Society: Your life must be so unfulfilling. Is there something wrong with you? Why didn’t you want kids? How strange.

From Woman On The Edge Of Tyne.

9 thoughts on “With child you lose, childfree you lose.

  1. tnt666 February 1, 2014 at 15:57 Reply

    Peut-être est-ce un faux débat?
    Biologiquement, Homo sapiens n’a pas évolué pour la monogamie ou la maternité à plein temps. Qu’il y ait quelques femmes qui soient mère, c’est de la biologie, que toutes les femmes soient des sources de “cheap labour” par l’esclavage utérin, c’est du patriarcat. L’Homo sapiens est biologiquement prêt à devenir adulte peu après la puberté… mais nous poussons aujourd’hui l’enfance jusqu’à la trentaine, et allongeons systématiquement nos vies, pour vieillir dans des hospices. L’insistence à l’allongement de nos vies, ça assure les revenus pharmaceutiques. Ça c’est du patriarcat. C’est le système noyau-père-mère-enfants-qui-deviennent-pions-capitalistes. De donner nos enfants à des entreprises pour les élever, c’est du patriarcat, de leur nier le lait maternel, c’est du patriarcat. Un enfant qui n’a pas eu de mère biologique (la biologie n’arrête pas à la grossesse-naissance) sera un pion (statistiquement) des entreprises pharmaceutiques, esclave des systèmes de santé, sans autonomie, un pion capitaliste. La femme qui sacrifie son rejeton pour pour le capitalisme, c’est du patriarcat. C’est le système religion/patriarcat qui a interdit l’allaitement après quelques mois chez les Africains et ailleurs. On ne voudraient pas que les enfants soient autonomes… non, ça n’irait pas. Pour faire fonctionner le système patriarcal/religieux/capitaliste, ça prend des pions faibles, des enfants sans parents, au système immunitaire précaire, qui connaissent l’amour payé.

    Pour s’extirper du régime patriarcat/religion/capital il faut se retirer du système de production, contrat de monogamie/monétaire/utérin. Pour s’éloigner du complexe patriarcat/religion/capital, il faut se rapprocher de nos fondations scientifiques, de notre biologie.
    Faisons beaucoup moins de bébés, et donnons-leur le cadeau de la santé mentale et psychique.
    Moi aussi je savais à la puberté que je ne voulais jamais ajouter de nous bibittes à la planète. On est bien assez nombreux, plus nombreux que tout autre mammifère. Les autres animaux n’ont-ils pas eux aussi le droit à l’existence?
    Basta!

  2. tnt666 February 1, 2014 at 15:58 Reply

    please don’t post that in French… I was having a dual language conversation and my brain got confused, I’ll resend that to you in English!! Sorry :)

    • Francois Tremblay February 2, 2014 at 00:19 Reply

      Oh non ça me dérange pas du tout, vous pouvez m’envoyer des commentaires en français ou en anglais. Mais comme je communique politique et philosophie en anglais, je trouve mes mots plus facilement en anglais…

  3. tnt666 February 1, 2014 at 16:25 Reply

    Maybe the underlying question is a red herring?

    Biologically, Homo sapiens has not evolved for monogamy and full time maternity. That some females mother, that’s biology, that ALL females pump out cheap labour peons through uterine slavery, that’s patriarchy. Homo sapiens are biologically ready for adult lifestyle after puberty, but we impose infancy now into the 30s… while we impose life into decades of cement hospice living. This insistence on longevity as a guarantor of quality of life is in fact a guarantor of pharmaceutical revenues, that’s patriarchy.
    The nuclear-pa-ma-child-as-capitalist-peon, that’s patriarchy. To give offspring to be raised by industry, that’s patriarchy. To deny offspring lactation is patriarchy. A practice rendered popular by missionaries serving patriarchy/capital prohibiting lactation beyond a few months. Thereby creating statistically sickly children, with deficient immunity and psychotic lack of autonomy, that is patriarchy at its finest. The perfect capitalistic peon. A designer slave. Lo and behold an individual might think autonomously, and be autonomous from government aid for the mere act of living. No capitalism needs workers who are medical and emotional slaves, loved/raised by a monetary and pharmaceutical system.

    To extirpate ourselves from patriarchy/relgion/capital, we must start by extirpating ourselves from the production system, contractual-monogamy/monetary/uterine. To distance oneself from patriarchy/religion/capitalism, we must brush aside religious values and patriarchal culture and reunite with ourselves as biological evolved living beings, come back to the science of life, instead of the delusion of culture and civilisation.

    Let us make less babies, but let’s give them the gift of autonomy, physical and mental autonomous health.
    I also knew by puberty there was no way I was going to add yet another human to this planet. We are plentiful, no mammal is more numerous than we. Do not other life forms also have any claim to a decent existence?
    Basta!

    • Francois Tremblay February 2, 2014 at 00:45 Reply

      Thank you for your great comment! Mind if I repost it? You are on fire today. (or ever? I don’t have any record of you commenting here before, so I assume you’re new)

      • tnt666 February 2, 2014 at 02:09 Reply

        Thank you, yes I’m new here. Go ahead. Fire is my middle name, between the TNT and the delusion of hell. Forgive the typos… fire is too passionate to be error-free :)

        • Francois Tremblay February 2, 2014 at 02:54 Reply

          So your name is TNT Fire 666? Interesting name. ;P

          • tnt666 February 2, 2014 at 20:28 Reply

            Is there any way for me to contact you directly?

        • Francois Tremblay February 2, 2014 at 20:30 Reply

          Well, you’re doing it… right now? :)

          Or send me an email at francoistremblay28 at gmail.com

          I also added a contact form two days ago (see below the header of this blog)

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