Things that fundies say to ex-fundies…

Forgedimagination, writing on their ex-Christian fundamentalist blog Defeating the Dragons, tells us the 15 most frustrating things fundies say to ex-fundamentalists, and also some things that liberal Christians say, like this one:

12. “Fundamentalism isn’t really Christianity.”

Oh, boy. I get this one so much, and I’m never entirely sure how to respond to it, because damn. What do they think Christianity is then? It’s a pretty big religion, and it’s got an awful lot of denominations. If believing that Jesus is God, literally came to earth, was crucified and resurrected and now sits on the right hand of the father, and he did all of this to save us from our sins doesn’t qualify you for Christianity, I’d like to see what does. Fundamentalism is an especially pernicious sub-culture in Christianity, but it’s not something totally different. They believe a lot of the exact same stuff that most Christians do– which was a huge shock when I eventually figured that one out. But, they take the hard-edged stance that they’re the only true Christians. So, it’s always funny to me when a non-fundamentalist says the exact same thing a fundamentalist would say about them.

7 thoughts on “Things that fundies say to ex-fundies…

  1. Heretic June 8, 2014 at 00:31

    The best part is when they claim that every follower is different or how you can interpret the very ancient and edited text in different ways and so can be used for good. Or they use the “no true Scotsman” for fundies. When all else fails, there’s the charity shtick; organized religion is good and needs to be tax-exempt because they have charities. Really – do we need it to exist to be able to get people to donate or help the poor?

    • Francois Tremblay June 8, 2014 at 00:50

      Religion is necessary for everything, doncha know. Ethics, charity, the arts, science…

      • Heretic June 8, 2014 at 00:59

        Atheism :)

  2. Independent Radical June 8, 2014 at 01:51

    In my view, no matter how non-fundamentalist a believer is he/she still believes in a super-power god being (who is almost always male) and who’s every command must be blindly obeyed without question. Obviously this way of thinking is to totally opposed to egalitarian leftist ideals.

    Many non-fundamentalist Christians go to the other extreme and claim that everyone should do whatever they want and blindly endorse anything that other people do because criticising people’s choices is “unloving”. This kind of liberalism is then backed up by appeals to divine command (e.g. “God has told us all to do whatever the hell we want and to not judge others, so if you judge you’re going against God” or “God approves of whatever it is I’m doing, so how can you tell me not to do it”.) It’s authoritarianism in the service of libertarianism and people who buy into it are just as closed off to criticism as other liberals/authoritarians.

  3. Independent Radical June 8, 2014 at 06:22

    Great article. And yes, Christians do loving bringing up John 3:16, but even that supposed all-loving verse implies barbarism. The statement “whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” implies that people who do not believe in Christianity will “perish” (which I assume means, go to hell.) I wouldn’t even wish eternal torture upon my worst enemies Nazis, pornographers, ultra-masculine reactionary males, etc. let alone people who merely disagreed with me philosophically,

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