Ask a Question 5.

I get two questions, I post them and answer them. This is the fifth edition, so it’s number 5 (to read previous editions, click on the “Q&A” tag). Here we go!

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Name: travis
Comment: Hi,

Have you considered doing an interview with alternative media creators who disagree with you, for instance Aurini (www.youtube.com/user/Aurini), Jay Dyer (jaysanalysis.com) or Peter Joseph (peterjoseph.info)?

Thanks!

I’m afraid I don’t know any of these people. How do they disagree with me and why should I do an interview with them? I mean, what topic are you talking about? I write about a number of things on here. I am willing to write refutations of things other people write, but just pointing me to someone’s blog is kindof a vague reference.

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Name: Thomas Eisenecker
Comment: Dear Mr. Tremblay,

while I have to say that our views (concerning radical feminism, atheism and anti-natalism; regrettably, I haven’t given much thought to anarchism) are astoundingly similar, I feel that I have to object to how you respond to some women in your articles.

The most glaring example of what I mean is your article on BDSM as a patriarchy manual. Did you really have to talk to the pro-BDSM woman like that? Even though I passionately disagree with liberal feminism (and with her, for that matter), you, as a man, are in absolutely no position to tell a woman that she is doing feminism wrong, even if you happen to have the better arguments.

And calling her an “incredibly self-righteous C U N T” (emphasis mine)? Are you joking? I don’t really care how you meant it. It is a profoundly misogynist slur and you should abstain from using it.

If it was a dudebro posting pro-porn, pro-BDSM, pro-[insert misogyny here] screeds, it would be entirely different. (Deliberate) ignorance of feminism, especially when coming from men, is to be expected. I would even flame some of those dudebros myself.

I would really advise you to change how you disagree with women and to at least try to show some solidarity with women (even with the ones you most fervently disagree with).

With regards,
Thomas Eisenecker, from Germany

First of all, I admit I went a little overboard in my comments to the pro-BDSM advocate in question. I apologize for using the word in question, it was far too exaggerated. Not trying to excuse it in any way, but it was the end result of a frustrating “dialogue” with a troll (because let’s face it, anyone who comes on your blog, says they have evidence for a position opposed to yours, and then repeatedly refuses to give that evidence, is pretty dang trollish), and frankly I thought I was pretty patient with her.

That being said, I am absolutely not required to act in solidarity with women who are not only not radfem, but have no consideration whatsoever for women’s well-being. Why would you possibly think I am? Do you seriously think I should respect Sarah Palin and Andrea Dworkin equally? Should ally blogs give equal time to Sheila Jeffreys and Beyonce? If you seriously think that, then I’m afraid you are quite deluded indeed and have bought into the liberal feminism-for-everyone ideology.

Frankly I am astounded at the male allies who seem to believe such things and try to convince me to follow their party line. Any feminism that shows solidarity with male class interests because they are presented by women is not an ideology worth following. If this is what it means to be a male ally, then count me out. But I’m pretty sure (unless radfem tell me otherwise) that’s not at all what it means to be a male ally.

Actually, as I understand it, my main role as a male ally is to tell other men to stop indulging woman-hating, so here I go: Thomas, stop claiming that woman-hating should be respected on the same footing as radical feminism.

With regards,
Francois Tremblay, from the Internet

15 thoughts on “Ask a Question 5.

  1. travis June 14, 2014 at 21:51 Reply

    Aurini has a position towards MRA / patriarchy, right libertarianism. Jay is passionate about philosophy but for some reason has ended in Christianity, patriarchy and Alex Jones. Peter is all about natural law resource based economy which is by definition hierarchical / marxist.

    • Francois Tremblay June 14, 2014 at 21:53 Reply

      Well okay. Not sure what I’m supposed to say about people who are pro-patriarchy though.

  2. travis June 14, 2014 at 22:11 Reply

    Sorry, forgot about being specific, derp :)

    Aurini about race realism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCaxQXVHMp0

    Aurini about r/K selection and feminism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtxtwf1Oeis

  3. travis June 14, 2014 at 22:31 Reply

    Should I post more?

  4. Thomas Eisenecker June 15, 2014 at 04:10 Reply

    Francois Tremblay,

    thank you for your response.

    However, I never said that you should swallow everything every woman says (that would be doublethink, to say the least) or that you should follow my party line. And, like I said, I’m not particularly fond of the ideology that comes with liberal feminism.

    That being said, I do go out of my way not to view any woman as “the enemy”, no matter her opinion/ideology. Even the most anti-feminist/woman-hating woman is still oppressed by virtue of her being a woman and it’s much easier to hate her because of her views, especially as a man, where misogyny comes naturally.

    (Quick question: where do you think I have the “not viewing women as the enemy”? You guessed it: radfem blogs)

    Nevertheless, I do respect you and don’t want to hold any grudges against you.

    Th.E.

  5. T. Eisenecker June 22, 2014 at 13:04 Reply

    Again, thank for the response (and for the link which I had had the privilege of reading several months ago).
    And I would like to introduce you to another link:
    http://radicalhubarchives.wordpress.com/2012/09/07/sisterhood-in-application-part-three/

    I highly recommend the fourth point on that list.

    • Francois Tremblay June 22, 2014 at 13:06 Reply

      I agree heavily with your recommendation of the fourth point, and would advise you to read it again, because you obviously have not!

  6. T. Eisenecker June 22, 2014 at 13:18 Reply

    I’d really love to know what it is that I’ve misunderstood.

    • Francois Tremblay June 22, 2014 at 13:22 Reply

      Apparently you skipped these parts:

      “Does the action always name the agent – men – even when highlighting internalised misogyny of some women?

      Does the action primarily focus on naming, denouncing, attacking male violence, male institutions, punishing (violent) men, or remembering female victims of male violence?”

      BDSM is by and large the exploitation of women’s sexuality to preserve men’s ability to rape, beat and abuse women.

      You also skipped the understanding that this list is for women, who are to take the lead in creating, not men. We are to criticize, esp. other men, but in this case I can’t be faulted for criticizing someone who *came to my blog* expressly to defend misogyny.

  7. T. Eisenecker June 22, 2014 at 14:07 Reply

    “…but in this case I can’t be faulted for criticizing someone who *came to my blog* expressly to defend misogyny.”

    Well, now that you put that way.

    But again, thanks for indulging me. (I’m sorry, if I’ve wasted your time)

    P.S. I did happen to notice that I don’t belong to sisterhood and that the article wasn’t in any way written for me.

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