The Bill Nye-Ken Ham debate.

Just watched the Bill Nye-Ken Ham debate. Ken Ham’s main argument was that “observational science” proves Creationism right and “historical science” – i.e. anything that’s about “the past”- is automatically suspect. Bill Nye’s main argument was that the Creationist claims are extraordinary and require evidence, while our observations do tell us things which are contrary to the Bible. He also pointed out that billions of people are religious and yet disagree with Ken Ham’s cosmology.

In the Q&A, Bill Nye drove it home with his passion for science, while Ken Ham came limping to the barn with repeated assertions that the Bible has all the answers. I think Ken Ham was more focused and overall a better speaker, but Bill Nye was more on point with his replies, had the better arguments, and was more conscious of the message he was there to deliver.

From a technical standpoint, Ken Ham lost the debate by himself. His main argument is that “historical science” cannot be trusted because natural law changes. But another of his main arguments is that only God can explain the uniformity of nature, and therefore science. This is a major contradiction in his position, and destroys everything else he’s said.

In the end, I think both sides won the debate. Ken Ham won simply by having the debate actually happen, and he just slid through the actual debate without taking any risks. I would tend to agree that the debate itself was a bad idea, but Bill Nye hammered the points he was there to give and showed up Creationism’s flaws, so I think he also won.

2 thoughts on “The Bill Nye-Ken Ham debate.

  1. sbt42 February 7, 2014 at 14:31

    I’ve not had a chance to watch the entire debate, but after seeing both Ham’s and Nye’s introductory statements and half-hour arguments for their cases, it seemed clear to me that Nye obliterated Ham’s assertions. Whether it was the stratification of rock, 9500+ year-old trees that would have died if they were under water, or the reality that a wooden ship would twist uncontrollably when constructed beyond a certain length and would therefore founder…Ham had no choice but to say essentially “I believe what the Bible says.” I slept very soundly last night and woke up in a GREAT mood, knowing that atheism has some incredibly strong supporters and advocates, and an equally strong foundation.

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