What would a female utopia be like?

Links June 29, 2015 Comments: 10

Even though I spend most of time opposing things, I also think it’s important to talk about what we support. This entry by witchwind discusses what a female utopia would be like. In doing so, she connects with other areas than just feminism, like childism, environmentalism and self-government. I don’t agree with all her points (for instance, her reliance on Green energy is flawed, as the video that will be posted tomorrow will demonstrate), but I think it’s worth looking at.

10 thoughts on “What would a female utopia be like?”

  1. lonesomeyogurt June 29, 2015 at 22:07

    I have no problem with women discussing and supporting these things, but I would have to ask whether or not you as a man believe that the prescriptions in this post align with your rejection of biological essentialism/supremacy. For you, is the idea of strict sex segregation and sex-based distribution of resources either 1) ethical or 2) necessary in a non-patriarchal world?

    • Francois Tremblay June 30, 2015 at 00:05

      I think you have to make the distinction between a hypothetical post-gender world and today’s world, where men commit 90%+ of violent crimes. If we had a society where that wasn’t true, then it wouldn’t make sense to segregate, and it certainly wouldn’t be ethical.

      • lonesomeyogurt June 30, 2015 at 00:36

        Yeah, absolutely. I’m just saying, this model of utopia seems to hinge on the idea that women’s liberation requires the physical removal of biological males, which is a fine belief, but it must go against your position on gender/patriarchy as a constructed social system, right? I guess I just don’t understand how a gender abolitionist such as yourself would find much to agree with here.

        • Francois Tremblay June 30, 2015 at 00:41

          I don’t see how one goes against the other. The fact that gender is a social construct does not mean that it will just vanish immediately if some people stop believing in it.

          • Elle Kacee June 30, 2015 at 02:18

            I think even if we wanted to re-integrate the sexes into a more equal society later, segregation is necessary for a generation or two in order to free women from psychological bondage. At the very least, we must have time to raise the boys who will be the men who won’t rape and kill us, and for the men who will rape and kill us to die off.

            • lonesomeyogurt June 30, 2015 at 16:32

              Strongly agree, Elle – if this is about the structure society will take after the revolution, as previously socialized patriarchal men die off and are slowly replaced, then I think it’s awesome :) I just wonder whether or not the implication is that this is the way society will always be, because it is natural to be this way – which I’m sure Francois does disagree with.

      • lonesomeyogurt June 30, 2015 at 00:40

        That’s not to say I think any of these prescriptions are immoral or unreasonable, they aren’t. But they certainly don’t align with the idea that male domination is a social phenomenon. Utopias that rely on this kind of segregation and strictly delineated sex roles are – by their own admission, I’m sure – not compatible with a rejection of psychological sex differences, which is a central pillar of your philosophy.

  2. b July 1, 2015 at 16:01

    I truly have to hand it to you for your supreme ability to rationalise hypocrisy.

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